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Jonny Rashid's avatar

Good argument, Laura. I want to add that sexual frankness can also make queer folks, especially those of us on the ace spectrum, not only uncomfortable, but embarrassed to come out about our sexuality. The straight male norm can often be oppressive and force us into a box that we don't fit in. For years, I thought something was wrong with me because I didn't think of or want sex in the same way as the dominant frame.

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John Hopkins's avatar

Well and boldly written!

I'm squeamish/shy, and don't want to hear any sexual details in church, ever, for any reason. Not even in a men's group. But if somehow my men's group started getting into that, I'd have no option but to speak about about pleasing one's wife first, every time. Yes, in real life there are occasional exceptions - but they don't set aside the rule. No details here, because as I said I'm squeamish/shy. But this is my principle understanding: if it's not mutual it's also not really intimate, and it's very much not love.

And I still don't want to hear any details in a Sunday morning sermon! Yikes!

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